Re: Joel Osteen Rebukes Apostles, Paul, Peter, John etc!
Yes .. it can be ..
IF
These clips are Joel himself speaking .. and show why so many get confused by his message. He does not speak plainly and maybe even, not consistently. Some 'teachers' today, need to pick a stance and stick to it. Right or wrong, at least folks would know where they stand.
That clip ended with him saying he doesn't see "gay" as ok by scripture. There are lots of clips available where he is clearly against homosexuality. Bravo.
But in another, he claims that there are plenty of homosexuals in his assembly and that if two of them were to "marry", he'd attend if invited. Attending a wedding, is an outward show of approval. Respect? Sure, I suppose, but it is not "nice" to leave someone without the gospel and then when they die ... what do you say about their eternal suffering and separation from the Almighty God? oops? What in the world does "for everybody" mean?
Pretty good up to ~3:20 .. but then ...
Any sinner should feel conviction in the presence of the gospel.
I don't know ... I guess I just feel that as a believer, my intent and hope is to lead others to Christ. There is none that are so despicable in their sinfulness that they cannot be touched by the Word of God. But they won't be as long as someone that has knowledge of the gospel spends their time going .. wellllll ... ummm .... sorta .. kinda .. maybe. Just get the truth out!
At the end of September, I will be a part of a team that is going into a part of Detroit that LITERALLY looks like images you'd see on the news of war torn cities. It is a part of the city where often, even the police won't go. We will be sharing the gospel, first .. and food, listening, understanding ... but we will not be accepting sin. Two friends felt led of the Spirit to leave a wonderful house in a very beautiful state, to be in Detroit .. one of the worse areas of it .. and start a church. (please pray for us) We have high hopes as we've all seen just how amazing and transforming, the gospel is. But for it to transform, it must be clear.
Issachar
Issachar
Originally posted by GH
IF
These clips are Joel himself speaking .. and show why so many get confused by his message. He does not speak plainly and maybe even, not consistently. Some 'teachers' today, need to pick a stance and stick to it. Right or wrong, at least folks would know where they stand.
That clip ended with him saying he doesn't see "gay" as ok by scripture. There are lots of clips available where he is clearly against homosexuality. Bravo.
But in another, he claims that there are plenty of homosexuals in his assembly and that if two of them were to "marry", he'd attend if invited. Attending a wedding, is an outward show of approval. Respect? Sure, I suppose, but it is not "nice" to leave someone without the gospel and then when they die ... what do you say about their eternal suffering and separation from the Almighty God? oops? What in the world does "for everybody" mean?
Pretty good up to ~3:20 .. but then ...
Any sinner should feel conviction in the presence of the gospel.
I don't know ... I guess I just feel that as a believer, my intent and hope is to lead others to Christ. There is none that are so despicable in their sinfulness that they cannot be touched by the Word of God. But they won't be as long as someone that has knowledge of the gospel spends their time going .. wellllll ... ummm .... sorta .. kinda .. maybe. Just get the truth out!
At the end of September, I will be a part of a team that is going into a part of Detroit that LITERALLY looks like images you'd see on the news of war torn cities. It is a part of the city where often, even the police won't go. We will be sharing the gospel, first .. and food, listening, understanding ... but we will not be accepting sin. Two friends felt led of the Spirit to leave a wonderful house in a very beautiful state, to be in Detroit .. one of the worse areas of it .. and start a church. (please pray for us) We have high hopes as we've all seen just how amazing and transforming, the gospel is. But for it to transform, it must be clear.
Issachar
Issachar
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